BB13 - Week 5 Discussion

Shelly says that now she knows why Dom called the HGs spineless....um what? Pot meet kettle...what the heck has she done to show any spine? Lie to everyone? Lick the vets asses for 3-4 weeks when they were in power? Now she is doing a damn good job licking Kalia/Dani ass.

They are now picking players for the veto...

The have nots are onto shelly.

Will it be a nightime veto comp after showtime??

Have they ever done a nighttime veto besides the one with the annoying wakeup calls ?

CC123 wrote:

Have they ever done a nighttime veto besides the one with the annoying wakeup calls ?

yes they have. The one that automatically comes to mind is the one where BB specifically told the HGs not to drink and what do Renny and Keisha do? Polish off a bottle of wine. They ended up having I THINK a morphomatic comp which Memphis won and which ultimately led to Rennys eviction. DUMB DUMB DUMB.

Did i miss something?! They already picked POV players?!

Veto Players:

Kalia
Rachel
Jeff
Jordan
Shelly
Adam

Porsche is hosting

The Have/Have Nots for the week are:

Shelly
Rachel
Jeff
Jordan

In addition to slop, they will have Coconuts and Catfish

So I'm assuming Shelley and Adam will throw it. How interesting that 2 people who don't really want it get picked along with Jordan, who desperately wants it. I'm not complaining, just a little fishy....

Jeff won POV

Bye, bye Rachel..

It would be interesting to see a Rachel vs. Cassi comp for the chance to go back inside the house. There was some discussion already that Adam would be the replacement nom when Jeff uses the Veto on himself. Who would vote out Adam?

PLEASE bring Rachel back!!! This season will turn into predictable BB10 without her! I enjoy not knowing what may happen next! Jeff an Jordan can't win every POV or HoH! Without her Dani and Kalia will run all the way to the end.... Well Dani will, that'd be too much movement for Kalia...

What I find fascinating is how little credit the HGs (and some of you) give Kalia. It is interesting how likability influences our assessment/judgments. How is the assumption reached that Kalia's HOH is merely Dani's? Based on what evidence? The fact that she nominated Rachel & Jeff? Is this an illogical nomination? Is it not YOUR HOH if you happen to nominate someone that is aligned with the thoughts of whomever you are aligned with? If that is the case, why is it that this same categorization is not applied to Rachel and (especially) Jordan? Why does no one say that it was Brendon or Jeff's HOH? I find it especially amusing when Jordan (of all people) casts this judgment on Kalia. Love you, Jordan, but you are not exactly one who would nominate anyone that was in disagreement with what Jeff wanted (and I am not suggesting that there is anything wrong with that if it doesn't put you in harm's way).

It is the same with all of the comments about Kalia's eating ("alll she does is eat"). You never hear this comment made about Brendon (when he was present) or any of the guys. What is really at the root of the criticism? Truth or just dislike?

Kalia gets on my nerves with all of the talking (I was incredibly amused with the assertion that her crying was sometimes part of her strategy...THAT WAS HILARIOUS!), but I do feel that she is really playing the game. One can argue that perhaps her game is not the one that you would play, but she is in there!

It is interesting how no matter what Jeff & Jordan do, they are adored by some (because they are beloved). If the exact same behavior is exhibited by others, they are labeled as many things (all derogatory). Jeff's ego/behavior is unbelievable. News alert: you do not walk on water, Jeff. And, I would like to point out, that I have always been a fan of J&J.

I guess this is what makes this game so interesting. We project our own behavior onto others and indict them for what we ourselves are doing.

The twist could actually make this interesting. Perhaps the real game is actually beginning. Let's see what happens. The beat goes on.

nicolefan75 wrote:

It would be interesting to see a Rachel vs. Cassi comp for the chance to go back inside the house. There was some discussion already that Adam would be the replacement nom when Jeff uses the Veto on himself. Who would vote out Adam?

Jeff and Jordan for sure. Possibly Porsche. I think Shelly could be sawyed too! If Rachel made a deal with Adam, would he evict Porsche over her?

Ugh Im a little sad Rachel will most likely be leaving. If I was Kalia I would get out Jordan. Jordan sure she was your friend but your playing a game and if they dont get out jordan soon Hell Jordan will win again. Without Rachel the show is going to be boring because no one really has brought anything to the table. Lawon even though hasnt played much game is entertainment and I hope Dom doesnt come back because I dont want to see Dani steam roll to the end. As much as i want to believe Rachel is accually crazy I dont I believe its all an act and If i were Dani id keep her its one more target as big as her in the house. Split a pair not a single player who really doesnt have anyone.

Yes, Jeff, Kalia is not going to put up Jordan because it would make YOU mad. It has nothing to do with the fact that she made that promise and already told you and Jordan time and time again what her goal was. Yes, Jeff, it is completely illogical for anyone to put YOU on the block. THE NERVE! How dare someone think that it is smart to put the golden boy on the block. It doesn't matter what YOU would do (if you ever won HOH), because it is you and as the "golden boy," you are exempt from the judgment and logic that you exercise on others. You are (or have become) a supreme (ego bigger than the studio lot) A-HOLE. I look forward to your eviction and a big serving of humble pie. It is on your menu, one way or the other.

Dear Kalia: stop being so needy. Is your goal to be adored by Jeff and Jordan or to win the damn game? Stop saying that you will never put Jordan up. It is a stupid promise. If you need to get her out to win, LOSE her. You are never going to be bosom buddies. You will never be shining in the light of their adoration. Your neediness is unattractive and it is going to lose you the game. Consider an hour of silence (while you are awake). Stop talking and start thinking.

(I noted on the pre-season BBAD show that I liked Kalia but my one concern was that in her video she noted her desire to be liked. This has indeed proved to be her biggest achilles heel. This will ultimately lose her the game).

I apologize for overposting today! I am having a conversation with myself. LOL

ChicagoMark wrote:

What I find fascinating is how little credit the HGs (and some of you) give Kalia. It is interesting how likability influences our assessment/judgments. How is the assumption reached that Kalia's HOH is merely Dani's? Based on what evidence? The fact that she nominated Rachel & Jeff? Is this an illogical nomination? Is it not YOUR HOH if you happen to nominate someone that is aligned with the thoughts of whomever you are aligned with? If that is the case, why is it that this same categorization is not applied to Rachel and (especially) Jordan? Why does no one say that it was Brendon or Jeff's HOH? I find it especially amusing when Jordan (of all people) casts this judgment on Kalia. Love you, Jordan, but you are not exactly one who would nominate anyone that was in disagreement with what Jeff wanted (and I am not suggesting that there is anything wrong with that if it doesn't put you in harm's way).

It is the same with all of the comments about Kalia's eating ("alll she does is eat"). You never hear this comment made about Brendon (when he was present) or any of the guys. What is really at the root of the criticism? Truth or just dislike?

Kalia gets on my nerves with all of the talking (I was incredibly amused with the assertion that her crying was sometimes part of her strategy...THAT WAS HILARIOUS!), but I do feel that she is really playing the game. One can argue that perhaps her game is not the one that you would play, but she is in there!

It is interesting how no matter what Jeff & Jordan do, they are adored by some (because they are beloved). If the exact same behavior is exhibited by others, they are labeled as many things (all derogatory). Jeff's ego/behavior is unbelievable. News alert: you do not walk on water, Jeff. And, I would like to point out, that I have always been a fan of J&J.

I guess this is what makes this game so interesting. We project our own behavior onto others and indict them for what we ourselves are doing.

The twist could actually make this interesting. Perhaps the real game is actually beginning. Let's see what happens. The beat goes on.

I agree Mark

Too bad Kahlia wouldn't take this opportunity to backdoor Dani and team up with Rachel...that would be a huge move!

LMAO@ Shelly aka Fire Marshall Bill talking to Rachel right now, I hope Kalia puts Shelly up as the replacement

Jay wrote:

LMAO@ Shelly aka Fire Marshall Bill talking to Rachel right now, I hope Kalia puts Shelly up as the replacement

Me too Jay...now that I would enjoy! But she won't because Shelly is "dangerous". More dangerous than Rachel?? mmmmkay. Just catching up and just now finding out Jeff won POV. I had a feeling he would win. But of course the comp was probably geared toward the golden boy right?

They said on feeds that Adam and Jeff were neck and neck during the comp. It was very close, something to do with balls.

Just reading overnight updates.....LMAO! How can ANYONE not think that Dani is running this HOH or manipulating Kalia. Kalia=silly putty in Dani's hand. Good for her though, SHE is totally playing this game to the hilt. Wow! Bwahahahahahaha!!!

Kalia and Dani=Ragan and Brit=Sharon and Sheila....same thing different season. Bash bash bash. sickening.

Lorraine wrote:

Just reading overnight updates.....LMAO! How can ANYONE not think that Dani is running this HOH or manipulating Kalia. Kalia=silly putty in Dani's hand. Good for her though, SHE is totally playing this game to the hilt. Wow! Bwahahahahahaha!!!

Because, Lorraine, it was a logical nomination. Just because the result would benefit Dani (and it is what Dani also wanted), it does not mean that it is not what Kalia would have done/wanted. Again, if this logic applies, then almost everyone's HOH can be considered someone else's and not their own. Faulty logic.

ChicagoMark wrote:

Lorraine wrote:

Just reading overnight updates.....LMAO! How can ANYONE not think that Dani is running this HOH or manipulating Kalia. Kalia=silly putty in Dani's hand. Good for her though, SHE is totally playing this game to the hilt. Wow! Bwahahahahahaha!!!

Because, Lorraine, it was a logical nomination. Just because the result would benefit Dani (and it is what Dani also wanted), it does not mean that it is not what Kalia would have done/wanted. Again, if this logic applies, then almost everyone's HOH can be considered someone else's and not their own. Faulty logic.

Its not the nomination I am speaking of Mark, its all the things that happened afterwords. Clearly, Dani is a doing a FINE job of manipulating Kalia. Nothing faulty about that logic as being logical has absolutely nothing to do with it. I can certainly recognize a manipulation when I see it. Hey, Kudos to Dani for getting it done. I might have to start being team Donato again when I see this kind of manipulation.