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PostSubject: What do you think is wrong with Big Brother and needs to change?   What do you think is wrong with Big Brother and needs to change? EmptySat Aug 01, 2009 11:30 pm

We all love BB and would probably watch it even if the cast was made up of twelve Ronnies (ok...maybe that would be the one scenario that goes too far). But there's plenty to complain about, or maybe a nicer way of putting it is that there's room for improvement.

1. Stop casting "types" and start casting people

The later seasons are dominated by fame whores (i.e. aspiring models/actors/professional wrestlers) and HGs specially recruited by producers to fill certain roles or to basically "recast" memorable HGs. It seems like as a result, the casts in these later seasons have become more and more full of vile people. It's fun to have villainous players like Dr. Will or Danielle who are fun to watch, but people like Jessie don't even register on the "love to hate" scale. I just hate to watch them.

Maybe it's naive, but I do believe that you can have a successful, outstanding season of BB if you have a diverse cast of genuine people and/or fans of the game. As long as they're interesting, that's all it takes (just look at BB2/BB3). You don't have to force fit them into types--and when you cast types you'll have people auditioning trying to fill them, and when they end up on the show, they're not who they said they were.

2. The live feeds need to be vastly improved

And I don't care if they have to do more annoying product placement on the episodes to afford it.

I will admit that the flashback feature was a major step forward. Yet frequently all four feeds are on the same event, or at best we see two events across four feeds. And don't get me started on the blocking. The endurance comps are a prime reason to get the feeds, but not when they block the first 50 minutes and people have already dropped out.

It's optimistic to think they'd even improve those aspects, but a dream goal would be for them to show at least some DR sessions on the feeds. Fine, some involve production and we can't see them, but it would be nice to see what they're really thinking and strategizing about in their other sessions. Or maybe just have a time when the HGs can go in the DR and vent to the camera without interacting with a member of production and we can watch that.

3. Twist the game rather than the HGs

This goes back to casting types. Sure, ideas like cliques, couples, and secret partners can change the game slightly, but it's usually not in an interesting way and it just results in poor casting choices. And what really matters for BB is having a quality cast.

Instead they should try to twist the game itself and even the non aspects of the game. Make PoV a mystery each week: they could play for the original PoV, the golden PoV, or the diamond PoV but not know which one until they win it. Maybe even give America a single vote in evictions but not be represented by a player inside the house (though that might work out poorly). Implement a version of the coup d'etat that can be revealed to the other HGs without them losing it. Create another power (but it wouldn't be every week like veto is) where the comp winner can put up a third nominee even if the power holder is a nominee him/herself.

4. Add more to the BB experience not directly about the game

Remember the dance marathon during BB1? I'm talking about things like that, only better, that add to the experience for the live feeds viewers and also the "social experiment" aspect of BB. All they seem to focus on is game anymore, and as fun as that is, there's more to BB than that. Make them fight over what food they can afford to get again. Create conflict by influencing non-game aspects of the HGs' experience. It will probably only create more drama in the game itself which can only be a good thing.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think is wrong with Big Brother and needs to change?   What do you think is wrong with Big Brother and needs to change? EmptyMon Aug 03, 2009 11:38 am

A major problem with this season is that Jessie is in. Nobody likes him. America should have been able to vote who got in. Jessica probibaly would have been in. Or, the alumni should have competed.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think is wrong with Big Brother and needs to change?   What do you think is wrong with Big Brother and needs to change? EmptyMon Aug 03, 2009 11:45 am

leahtahd wrote:
A major problem with this season is that Jessie is in. Nobody likes him. America should have been able to vote who got in. Jessica probibaly would have been in. Or, the alumni should have competed.

That first HOH comp was very much geared towards an athletic person winning and pretty much set the stage for Jessie re-entering the BB house. Seems to me that there should have been a better way to determine the first HOH.

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PostSubject: Re: What do you think is wrong with Big Brother and needs to change?   What do you think is wrong with Big Brother and needs to change? EmptyMon Aug 03, 2009 10:38 pm

I'm not keen on the idea of the unearned HoH that started the game. Maybe I would be singing a different tune if Brian or Jessica had made it, but I doubt it. There would actually be another HG to like, though. Virtually all of these people are pretty vile this year.

Grodner seems to have a thing for Jessie, though. They even brought him back in the gorilla suit last year. They have to know fans don't even love to hate him; we just hate him.

They're always trying to bring back people or recast certain HGs and it never works. Even casting Russell is an attempt at getting another Jessie in the house.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think is wrong with Big Brother and needs to change?   What do you think is wrong with Big Brother and needs to change? EmptyMon Aug 03, 2009 10:47 pm

Mechanical Bliss wrote:
I'm not keen on the idea of the unearned HoH that started the game. Maybe I would be singing a different tune if Brian or Jessica had made it, but I doubt it. There would actually be another HG to like, though. Virtually all of these people are pretty vile this year.

Grodner seems to have a thing for Jessie, though. They even brought him back in the gorilla suit last year. They have to know fans don't even love to hate him; we just hate him.

They're always trying to bring back people or recast certain HGs and it never works. Even casting Russell is an attempt at getting another Jessie in the house.

I agree with the unearned HOH. It should have put a huge target on Jessie's back but he's been able to survive thus far. I figured he would have been going right back out the door the next week. I also agree on the vile cast this year. I only care for a few at this moment and probably the longer they last they too I won't care for.

Russell and Michele have joined Natalie and Lydia in my get the the hell out of there category, Ronnie's game is toast so I could give a shit about him at this point. I also think the Coup D'tat should have been earned and America should stay out of it so there is no speculation as to the integrity of the game.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think is wrong with Big Brother and needs to change?   What do you think is wrong with Big Brother and needs to change? EmptyMon Aug 03, 2009 11:04 pm

Erika wrote:
I also think the Coup D'tat should have been earned and America should stay out of it so there is no speculation as to the integrity of the game.

Well if Jeff wins, there's no need for speculation.  wink

Unless of course you mean the HGs themselves bitching about the fact that they didn't win and can't conceive of America hating them, or at least liking Jeff more. Then yeah, that'll get pretty annoying.

I do sort of agree about the CD'E being unearned. It has a tremendous amount of power that there should be one hell of a comp for it. But...

The America's Choice votes have been insanely stupid this year. Sardines and saltines? Cocktail wieners and cabbage? ENOUGH! I couldn't care less. At least this America's Choice means something.

The other thing is it also does seem like BB pulled this out of thin air because they know fans aren't liking the way the game is going. The chance to give it to someone they want will flip the game around in a way that might not happen otherwise. Luck and the influence of outside forces are a part of the BB game too, not just skill at winning comps (and of course many comps are purely luck too).

Plus, if it were a comp, Jessie might win and that would make me go puke . That would completely ruin the season for me.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think is wrong with Big Brother and needs to change?   What do you think is wrong with Big Brother and needs to change? EmptyTue Aug 04, 2009 12:02 am

Here's something else: 7/13 HGs are from California.

Maybe it depends on what "from" means because Jessie was "from" Iowa last season. But this is a little absurd. They really do need a more diverse cast. When you stick with Cali, you get a bunch of wannabe actors/models/professional wrestlers. BB seems to like those types unfortunately.
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